[ST] [SA] Staff Den access policy...

[SciFiFanBoston at aol.com]

Thank you, Jude, for clarifying what my intention is from my first post in  
this subject.  THAT IS, I do not want ANYONE turned away from a meal in the  
Staff Den who has done a real job for the convention.  
 
I'd like to be able to send people from Volunteers Lounge who have worked a  
number of hours, sent by someone in charge (in this case me) who KNOWS they  
deserve Staff Den privileges and not turned away because they don't have the  
right ribbon.  I'm concerned that the statement from Joel did not take into  
account Volunteers who man the Volunteer Lounge (nee: Gopher Hole) and  are 
first timers, but who put in many hours.  I'm not comparing apples to  oranges, 
I'm comparing apples to apples.  Why can one group of apples go to  the Staff 
Den and not another?  
 
My other concern was the person or persons who because they only work a  
couple hours and get a what's considered a 'staff den access' ribbon  and are fed 
all weekend, AND their department head let's them take  advantage of that 
system.  I think we all know who those people are, and we  surely have the people 
with balls enough to tell them just because you did a  couple hours for me 
(i.e. department head) doesn't mean wer'e going to feed you  all weekend.
 
ALL Volunteers should be treated as equally as possible.  
 
-Mary
 

 
In a message dated 1/10/2007 7:34:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jude-arisia at genericdomain.net writes:


I  think this and a number of other emails may miss the point of the
original  post.  My take was not that the poster was saying it is wrong
for  masquerade and art show ribbons to get into the Staff Den, but
rather  asking why working on those areas in any capacity gets special
treatment  over generic gophers.  If I've arranged ahead to work the art
show or  masquerade, I can get my ribbon, work my N hours, and use the
Staff Den,  but if instead I happen to be helping out logistics for those
same N hours  and get a gopher ribbon, I only get the snacks at the
gopher  hole.

(I know I've received a masquerade staff ribbon in the past even  when I
was only working a couple of hours for the masquerade.   I  had green
room access anyway, so it wasn't an issue for me, but I do get  that
aspect of the poster's gripe, too.)

Anyway I think the point  was that people who deserve to be fed aren't
being fed.

Note to  Crystal: I am *not* suggesting any changes be made, especially
for this  year!  I think it is a useful discussion to have post-con,
especially  if relevant data can be collected for analysis.

See you  tomorrow,

-jude



On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at  06:25:29PM -0500, Dan Kimmel wrote:
> My two cents...
> 
> I  don't use the Staff Den because I have access to the Green Room as a  
Panel
> Participant.  I think people who contribute their time and  efforts in
> whatever measure -- assuming it's not a sham just to get  the perqs -- have
> earned the thanks of the con through these  efforts.  My hat is off to the
> people who make them  possible.
> 
> I love Arisia because a lot of people do incredible  work to throw this
> weekend event for fandom.  I'm glad my own  small contribution is 
appreciated
> but I am in awe of the people who  make planning and running Arisia one of
> their major leisure time  activities.  And so I don't begrudge anyone the
> peanut buttter  sandwich, ramen soup, warmed up lasagne, bagels, soda,
> coffee, or  whatever refueling they need to get them through the convention.
>  
> The Staff Den, like the Green Room and the Gopher Hole, are thank  yous to
> people who are doing this because they *want* to give  something to fandom,
> not because they're looking to scam the  convention.
> 
> >From con chair to coat check, from security  to program ops, from the
> masquerade lighting crew to the people at  registration, these are the 
people
> who let us all have fun for a  weekend every January.  In the absence of any
> evidence of serious  abuse, I say thank you and enjoy your meal.  You earned
>  it.
> 
> Dan
> daniel.kimmel at rcn.com
> 
>  

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