[ST] Hygiene Ninja (Forwarded)

David D'Antonio dda at dantonio.net
Tue Jan 16 19:36:41 EST 2007


Hi all,

As I said elsewhere, if Collette is removed from staff over this, I  
strongly suspect we will lose other volunteers, too (including me). I  
see no reason for a public apology although Collette is certain free  
to apologise privately if she so chooses.

To the best of my knowledge, no one was "assaulted" by the ninja and  
I think the entire thing is a total over-reaction.

DDA

On Jan 16, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Walter Kahn wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you Collette for coming forth and taking responsibility for  
> this incident.
>
> I've known Collette for a very long time and I'm convinced she did  
> not mean any harm. I personally don't think she should be removed  
> from Staff. Just the fact that she took responsibility for it shows  
> her character.
>
> Right now I think the most important thing we can do is for Arisia  
> to make an official apology to this person and to any other person  
> that has been assaulted by the "Hygiene Ninja". Also, I think that  
> someone should email Kris and maybe even put an official apology on  
> the Webpage if the Con Senior Staff and/ or Corporation sees fit to  
> do that.
>
> From this point on, since we now know what happened,  I think this  
> discussion should be moved to the Corporate list, or at the very  
> least The Corporate list should be included in the discussions.
>
> I also want to thank Kris for bringing this to the Con's attention.
>
> I think Kris has said best as how I feel being a former social  
> outcast so I won't get into that.
>
> Walter
>
> -------------------------
> Walter Kahn
> Arisia 2007 Innkeeper
> innkeeper at arisia.org
> hotel at arisia.org
>
> www.arisia.org
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Colette H. Fozard wrote:
>
> Just to clear the air: this did happen, and the person on Ops staff  
> who "sicced" the hygiene ninja on the volunteer in question  
> (assuming we are talking about the same person, which I imagine we  
> are) was me.
>
> It was meant as a gentle way to get a serious point across.  The  
> timing ended up a little off (from my recollection, it ended up  
> happening in Operations), but I did not mean harm, and talked with  
> the volunteer at about the time they were approached by the ninja  
> and ensured that they understood the intention, and to also be sure  
> they were being given the chance to relax and get a chance to  
> shower/etc.  The volunteer in question said he had showered and was  
> completely conscious of the issue, and mentioned that it was a  
> particular piece of outerwear he was wearing that he wears during  
> work and "can't get the smell out of it."  He removed said article  
> of clothing later and all was fine.
>
> I know why I did it, I know that I meant no harm, and I believe  
> that the staffer did not take any lasting insult from the  
> incident.  I am very sorry that my action offended others and has  
> caused people to look down upon the "hygiene ninja" (which in my  
> mind has generally been a gentle and humorous reminder that in a  
> hotel packed full of people, this issue is more important than usual).
>
> I leave it to the powers that be to decide whether this action  
> necessitates my removal from staff, but I certainly felt I should  
> let folks know that this incident did happen, though with not the  
> malice assumed in the original complaint.
>
> --Colette H. Fozard
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dave Belfer-Shevett <dbs at homeport.org>
> To: jude-arisia at genericdomain.net
> Cc: staff at arisia.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:02:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [ST] Hygiene Ninja (Forwarded)
>
>
> jude-arisia at genericdomain.net wrote:
>> This was posted to the Arisia LJ community by con member (and  
>> friend of
>> mine and many of us) Kriss Barnhart, who requested it be sent to the
>> staff list.  For the record, I agree with her and I think this is a
>> great letter.
>
> I have replied to it as well, and as long as we're keeping this going,
> here's my reply.
>
> I am not speaking in any official capacity, as this year I was not  
> even
> a div head. But as someone fairly involved in concom activities, I  
> have
> never ever heard that ops endorses or 'sics' the hygiene ninja on  
> anyone.
>
> I have seen this character once or twice, and in fact mediated an
> encounter where someone was offended by the targeting. Said ninja, and
> several other staff members assured the jest was random, and was not
> targeting specific people.
>
> I have no capacity to apologize on anyones behalf, but I will say that
> it is MY impression you may be misinformed as to the circumstances
> surrounding this encounter.
>
>     -dbs
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