From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Wed Jun 1 00:59:12 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j514xCrC013488 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 00:59:12 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j514xAsa013483 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 00:59:11 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j514xABM024959 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 00:59:10 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j514x5J0024955 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 00:59:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200506010459.j514x5J0024955@hacksaw.org> To: toolsdev@arisia.org From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.5 tests= X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Toolsdev] dkap idea X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:59:13 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:59:05 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:59:13 -0000 Dkap says: We should have a column somewhere for panelist notes, which they can use to describe the panel is greater detail, or offer URL's to related sites, etc. Also, and column for email-lists related to the subject. These should be retained for history, and available on the website. From trgangwer@gmail.com Wed Jun 1 01:13:50 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j515DoA9014417 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:13:50 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j515DlYN014412 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:13:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so4097150wra for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:13:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dhJZUofIyfEUG40pZE9wuR8wicyAinGa6siwNyNUjHrkr1ntG6IH4/RL8j2l8L9CYcS9enQfKXUUIPwLuccvwMgv4wvWYJ4+fFpeo4dhdsLRS9YDDaeTi49Ru9E6gE/rBH4uHafUEmm/ix902XoWSR6V7rKk4rKSpdum8s3QRkU= Received: by 10.54.13.44 with SMTP id 44mr1797427wrm; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.22.11 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1258b4640505312213453ae52a@mail.gmail.com> From: Tracy Gangwer To: Hacksaw Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] dkap idea In-Reply-To: <200506010459.j514x5J0024955@hacksaw.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506010459.j514x5J0024955@hacksaw.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.significant.com id j515DoA9014417 Cc: toolsdev@arisia.org X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tracy Gangwer List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:13:50 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:13:47 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:13:50 -0000 How is this description different than the short and long precis. Ok, more specifically the long precis? There is no reason a link couldn't be in the long precis. We might want to add a place to put links, but then, maybe not immediately... Thanks, trg On 6/1/05, Hacksaw wrote: > Dkap says: > > We should have a column somewhere for panelist notes, which they can > use to describe the panel is greater detail, or offer URL's to related > sites, etc. > > Also, and column for email-lists related to the subject. > > These should be retained for history, and available on the website. > _______________________________________________ > Toolsdev mailing list > Toolsdev@arisia.org > http://arisia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolsdev > From trgangwer@gmail.com Wed Jun 1 01:22:12 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j515MC0U015011 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:22:12 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j515M9Ye015004 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:22:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so4101159wra for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=b0j3+bMpSADZpbV97rF9zxna5D30SxgNcyKM9iAnM/Kz/ES41Az6+hqTTP35fG6E/gR8ddo1Ar0wQViTL17Hiy4/QYsJBpPisxE5PZO918eTInmd0Dgnoe0sOEvoRwlhIkBjVjmAZRSg9dnlY5R6IEeoBhtLPsNbe3KqJnZMzOY= Received: by 10.54.35.68 with SMTP id i68mr3383172wri; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.22.11 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1258b46405053122223a260bf4@mail.gmail.com> From: Tracy Gangwer To: toolsdev@arisia.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.5 tests= X-Spam-Level: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.significant.com id j515MC0U015011 Subject: [Toolsdev] goals, scope growth and timing X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tracy Gangwer List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:22:13 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:22:09 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:22:13 -0000 All - There are a few things that are starting to worry me... One is divergence between the database and the web pages. Another is scope growth. The third is the late date. I propose the following goal for the next week: Lets focus on developing the first piece. Finish definition of the the needed page(s) and table(s) for the input of panels. And make it happen. Second piece is the searching and editing of panels. Note: this does not include any scheduling or assignment data. It is now June. Lets show that we can deliver. Thanks, trg From SRS0=nJCb1U=UH=sophia2.somerville.ma.us=olszowka@yourhostingaccount.com Wed Jun 1 01:42:11 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j515gAcw016453 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:42:10 -0400 Received: from out-mail10.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.74]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j515g9Ht016448 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:42:09 -0400 Received: from scan03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.233] helo=scan03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mail10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DdLb6-00074a-DX for toolsdev@arisia.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:16:56 -0400 Received: from authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.156] ident=exim) by scan03.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1DdLb6-0000Ez-6b for toolsdev@arisia.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:16:56 -0400 Received: from authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.156] helo=authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DdLb5-0000Ew-Vx for toolsdev@arisia.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:16:56 -0400 Received: from c-66-30-13-97.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([66.30.13.97] helo=Peter-Personal) by authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1DdLb5-0001lL-Gw for toolsdev@arisia.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:16:55 -0400 From: "Peter Olszowka" To: toolsdev@arisia.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] dkap idea Message-ID: <429D0C8A.20750.D33FD38@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200506010459.j514x5J0024955@hacksaw.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-EN-UserInfo: f6725fa97629e9bcbd3777016a28fb5f:989e9222681cc704a9ca1e92c5bdb4d7 X-EN-AuthUser: olszowka@sophia2.somerville.ma.us Sender: "Peter Olszowka" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:42:11 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:16:58 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:42:11 -0000 I want to make sure I understand: One field per panelist (participant) per session? Should email lists be in separate field? One field per session? Just type more than one email list in the field if necessary? We're not planning on connecting this directly to the public website for a while. That's future wishlist stuff. --PeterO On 1 Jun 2005 at 0:59, Hacksaw wrote: To: toolsdev@arisia.org Date sent: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:59:05 -0400 From: Hacksaw Subject: [Toolsdev] dkap idea > Dkap says: > > We should have a column somewhere for panelist notes, which they can > use to describe the panel is greater detail, or offer URL's to related > sites, etc. > > Also, and column for email-lists related to the subject. > > These should be retained for history, and available on the website. > _______________________________________________ Toolsdev mailing list > Toolsdev@arisia.org http://arisia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolsdev From rachel@mahonkin.com Thu Jun 2 01:20:25 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j525KPUY031928 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:20:25 -0400 Received: from big.mahonkin.com (mahonkin.com [199.201.145.165]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j525KKCD031921 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:20:20 -0400 Received: from laptop.mahonkin.com (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by big.mahonkin.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id j524ZSi13532 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 00:35:28 -0400 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050602002709.08a4e008@localhost> X-Sender: rachel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 To: toolsdev@arisia.org From: Rachel Silber In-Reply-To: <1258b46405053122223a260bf4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1258b46405053122223a260bf4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Subject: [Toolsdev] schema? X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 05:20:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:28:34 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 05:20:26 -0000 Did I miss a message with the current schema (so far as we have designed it) on the toolsdev list? I remember a request for posting the same, but I don't remember seeing the response, and I can't find it now. Rachel From jdietz@egbt.org Thu Jun 2 02:04:20 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5264KI9002154 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 02:04:20 -0400 Received: from pilfer.dreamhost.com (pilfer.dreamhost.com [66.33.217.5]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5264IrI002145 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 02:04:19 -0400 Received: from [10.3.3.148] (c-24-63-131-144.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.131.144]) by pilfer.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CB512DA0B; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:40:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20050602002709.08a4e008@localhost> References: <1258b46405053122223a260bf4@mail.gmail.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20050602002709.08a4e008@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <77646213-CCDF-403A-BA6D-687C0570C38C@egbt.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jack Dietz Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] schema? To: Rachel Silber X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Cc: toolsdev@arisia.org X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:04:21 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:40:13 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:04:21 -0000 I'm revising the schema, and I'll try and get it posted by tomorrow late. Jack On Jun 2, 2005, at 12:28 AM, Rachel Silber wrote: > Did I miss a message with the current schema (so far as we have > designed it) on the toolsdev list? > I remember a request for posting the same, but I don't remember > seeing the response, and I can't find it now. > > Rachel > > _______________________________________________ > Toolsdev mailing list > Toolsdev@arisia.org > http://arisia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolsdev > From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Thu Jun 2 02:12:43 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j526Ch8T002598 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 02:12:43 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j526Cf1L002588 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 02:12:41 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j525QBBM015521; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:26:11 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j525Q5Uv015517; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:26:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200506020526.j525Q5Uv015517@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Rachel Silber Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] schema? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:28:34 EDT." <6.1.0.6.2.20050602002709.08a4e008@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Cc: toolsdev@arisia.org X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:12:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:26:05 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:12:43 -0000 No, it didn't get posted. When I talked to Peter on Tuesday, he said that further work had been done, but there were further things to be added. That said, I would also like to see it, regardless of its state. -- You can reach either for the stars or your ankles http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From shevett@homeport.org Thu Jun 2 08:26:52 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52CQqTn026505 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:26:52 -0400 Received: from seawall.homeport.org (seawall.homeport.org [136.248.127.98]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52CQnsc026500 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:26:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFE4398C1 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawall.homeport.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (seawall.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66259-03 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lightship.internal.homeport.org (lightship.internal.homeport.org [10.0.0.11]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436A639884 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightship.internal.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCA42C943 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:26:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Belfer-Shevett X-X-Sender: shevett@localhost To: toolsdev@arisia.org Message-ID: <20050602081956.H70096@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at homeport.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.5 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:44:52 -0400 Subject: [Toolsdev] Database choices. X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:26:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:26:44 -0400 (EDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:26:52 -0000 Hey folks - I'm going to be enabling MySQL on Zydeco so people can get their CONGO installations running. I've heard a bit of chatter that folks may be using MySQL for CONGO, and Postgres for UnnamedTool. I'd say this is a very very -bad- idea. Spanning database implementations when one is already in place and working makes it impossible to join the two datasets except programmatically. It doubles the requirements for the host system (2 database systems running simultaneously), and makes out of band work (such as on the fly queries and joins) impossible. CONGO was written to MySQL, but may be able to be ported to Postgres. I have had no compellikng reason to do so, and the last time I worked with Postgres I was quite unimpressed with the toolset. I'd like to nail this one down before moving ahead, and my strong recommendation is that we work completely within one database, and I'd prefer that that datbase be MySQL (I know it very well, it's working now, CONGO will 'just work' with it). -dbs -- -------------------.--------.-------------------------------. Dave Belfer-Shevett \ KB1FWR \ JID: dbs@jabber.stonekeep.com \ blog:planet-geek.com >--------'-----------------------------------. dbs@homeport.org / 49. Found missing. (from 'Top 50 Oxymorons') \ \______________________________________________/ From jdietz@egbt.org Thu Jun 2 20:10:42 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j530AgYF015173 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:10:42 -0400 Received: from pillage.dreamhost.com (pillage.dreamhost.com [66.33.213.23]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j530AbWs015161 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:10:37 -0400 Received: from [10.178.152.60] (m110e36d0.tmodns.net [208.54.14.17]) by pillage.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE701496A9 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) To: toolsdev@arisia.org Message-Id: <822D9844-8E77-410E-B5C1-E0B80209E1D7@egbt.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--145442035 From: Jack Dietz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.5 tests=USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL X-Spam-Level: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: [Toolsdev] Revised schema X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 00:10:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:36:35 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 00:10:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2--145442035 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Folks, This is what we have right now for a database schema. It's still up for discussion, and I'll work on wikifying it soon to make it easier for multiple people to make changes to it. Jack --Apple-Mail-2--145442035-- From jdietz@egbt.org Thu Jun 2 20:19:24 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j530JOhq015720 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:19:24 -0400 Received: from pilfer.dreamhost.com (pilfer.dreamhost.com [66.33.217.5]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j530JNgJ015715 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:19:23 -0400 Received: from [10.178.100.188] (m090e36d0.tmodns.net [208.54.14.9]) by pilfer.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413A712DA03; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:19:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <822D9844-8E77-410E-B5C1-E0B80209E1D7@egbt.org> References: <822D9844-8E77-410E-B5C1-E0B80209E1D7@egbt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <048A9017-2100-499E-A837-7F47E8F81B7D@egbt.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jack Dietz Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] Revised schema To: Jack Dietz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Cc: toolsdev@arisia.org X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 00:19:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:19:09 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 00:19:24 -0000 Arg, the attachments-stripping problem. I've placed it at http:// www.choropleth.org/revisedschema.rtf . Jack On Jun 2, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Jack Dietz wrote: > Folks, > > This is what we have right now for a database schema. It's still > up for discussion, and I'll work on wikifying it soon to make it > easier for multiple people to make changes to it. > > Jack > > _______________________________________________ > Toolsdev mailing list > Toolsdev@arisia.org > http://arisia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolsdev > From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Fri Jun 3 18:37:49 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53MbnW0011158 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:37:49 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53MbjI5011152 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:37:45 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j53MbjBM019037 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:37:45 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j53MbdfB019033 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:37:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200506032237.j53MbdfB019033@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: toolsdev@arisia.org Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] Revised schema In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:19:09 CDT." <048A9017-2100-499E-A837-7F47E8F81B7D@egbt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:37:50 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 18:37:39 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:37:50 -0000 As a method for understanding the schema, I am converting it to SQL. If anyone else is doing this already, let me know, not that it will stop me. :-) ----- On dbs's question regarding Postgresql vs MySql, I agree that supporting two databases on one machine is asking a bit much. DBS, have you looked at recent postgresql implementations? In a related question, have you upgrade MySql to their recent version, especially the one with crude triggers? People who are thinking about the schema: Has anyone identified a problem that would be best solved with Postgresql's more complete triggers, or would MySql's do, or do we need them at all? -- Grande Mal(l): When you're seized with the urge to shop... Just look for the sign blinking three times a second. http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From dbs@homeport.org Fri Jun 3 18:52:15 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53MqFb9012708 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:52:15 -0400 Received: from seawall.homeport.org (seawall.homeport.org [136.248.127.98]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53Mq9gx012680 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:52:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C9E3987C; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawall.homeport.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (seawall.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89864-05; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp55.internal.homeport.org (unknown [10.0.0.55]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C98339876; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:52:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Belfer-Shevett To: "Latzko, Alex" In-Reply-To: <200506032237.j53MbdfB019033@hacksaw.org> References: <200506032237.j53MbdfB019033@hacksaw.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Arisia Registration Geek Message-Id: <1117839122.7181.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at homeport.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Cc: toolsdev@arisia.org Subject: [Toolsdev] MySQL versions on zydeco X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dbs@homeport.org List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:52:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 18:52:02 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:52:16 -0000 On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 18:37 -0400, Hacksaw wrote: > DBS, have you looked at recent postgresql implementations? In a related > question, have you upgrade MySql to their recent version, especially the one > with crude triggers? It looks like the MySQL on Zydeco is 3.23.mumble, which is -ancient-. SInce the distribution is based on Redhat 7.3, this is understandable, but we can't really develop against this. I'm Ccing Alex on this. Alex, if we can upgrade MySQL on zydeco to 4.1, that would be grand. If you don't hasve the bandwidth, I'd like to bring in Mort, who did all our Redhat-based MySQL upgrades about 6 months ago. > People who are thinking about the schema: Has anyone identified a problem that > would be best solved with Postgresql's more complete triggers, or would > MySql's do, or do we need them at all? CONGO manages its own triggers, usign the database as flat SQL storage. I'd recommend using coded-in triggers rather than database-specific triggers, to allow motion / ease migration in teh future. -dbs -- Dave Belfer-Shevett Arisia Registration Geek From SRS0=PNlp+a=UK=sophia2.somerville.ma.us=olszowka@yourhostingaccount.com Sat Jun 4 00:01:15 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5441Fa8031206 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:01:15 -0400 Received: from out-mail18.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.75]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5441BDN031201 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:01:11 -0400 Received: from scan06.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.236] helo=scan06.yourhostingaccount.com) by mail18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DePZb-0007lV-0l for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:43:47 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] ident=exim) by scan06.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1DePZa-0004qH-Vh for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:43:46 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] helo=authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan06.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DePZa-0004qE-OM for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:43:46 -0400 Received: from c-66-30-13-97.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([66.30.13.97] helo=Peter-Personal) by authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1DePZa-0005fo-HY for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:43:46 -0400 From: "Peter Olszowka" To: toolsdev@arisia.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42A0EB3B.5908.1C51E217@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1117839122.7181.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200506032237.j53MbdfB019033@hacksaw.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-EN-UserInfo: f6725fa97629e9bcbd3777016a28fb5f:989e9222681cc704a9ca1e92c5bdb4d7 X-EN-AuthUser: olszowka@sophia2.somerville.ma.us Sender: "Peter Olszowka" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Subject: [Toolsdev] Update to page "Create New Session" and updates to schema X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 04:01:15 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:43:55 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 04:01:15 -0000 Hi, I've updated the mockup of page "Create New Session" according to the latest revisions by trg. View it here: http://zydeco.netbusters.com/~olszowka/arisia_program/AddNewItems. htm The page implies some changes to the latest schema distributed by Jack: Sessions table: 1) Remove column divisionid 2) Remove column proposer 3) Add column materials text 4) Add column servicenotes text Replace SessionHasProperty and SessionProperies tables with following tables: 5) Table SessionFeatures column featureid integer [primary key] column featurename text 6) Table SessionHasFeature column sessionid integer [primary key] (foreign key) column featureid integer [primary key] (foreign key) 7) Table SessionServices column serviceid integer [primarykey] column servicename text 8) Table SessionHasService column sessionid integer [primary key] (foreign key) column serviceid integer [primary key] (foreign key) Note, it will be too difficult to capture a text notes separately for each service on each session. Instead, a single column, servicenotes, on the sessions table will capture any details about any services. From rachel@mahonkin.com Sat Jun 4 00:22:34 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j544MYpA032452 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:22:34 -0400 Received: from big.mahonkin.com (mahonkin.com [199.201.145.165]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j544MWB3032442 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:22:32 -0400 Received: from laptop.mahonkin.com (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by big.mahonkin.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id j544TPi04480; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:29:25 -0400 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050604000856.086e4ec0@localhost> X-Sender: rachel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 To: "Peter Olszowka" , toolsdev@arisia.org From: Rachel Silber Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] Update to page "Create New Session" and updates to schema In-Reply-To: <42A0EB3B.5908.1C51E217@localhost> References: <200506032237.j53MbdfB019033@hacksaw.org> <42A0EB3B.5908.1C51E217@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Cc: X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 04:22:35 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 00:22:26 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 04:22:35 -0000 Overall, this seemed like a comprehensive presentation of information about a panel. The only thing I noticed being missing is an indication about whether or not the item belongs in the precis or not. For example, we could have an item "Artist GoH does a presentation about the process of creating his latest sculpture", and that would not be something we'd put in the precis for program participants to sign up for, yet we would need to track it through this system. In my experience, items were either "general" and went into the precis, or had a specific name attached to them and did not go in the precis, so there should be a field for "contact person" or something of that sort. It took me a while to figure out that comp.pres. was computer presentation. I don't know if the list of services is intended as actual data or as just a sample. However, two thing struck me as missing from the list: 1) "screen". Duh, if you have a projector it's obvious you want a screen? It's amazing how easy it is to miss the obvious when you have a long list of equipment to move around. 2) slide projector. Particularly for artist presentations, we still get requests for these. Rachel At 11:43 PM 6/3/2005, Peter Olszowka wrote: >Hi, > >I've updated the mockup of page "Create New Session" according to >the latest revisions by trg. View it here: > >http://zydeco.netbusters.com/~olszowka/arisia_program/AddNewItems. >htm > >The page implies some changes to the latest schema distributed by >Jack: > >Sessions table: > >1) Remove column divisionid >2) Remove column proposer >3) Add column materials text >4) Add column servicenotes text > >Replace SessionHasProperty and SessionProperies tables with >following tables: > >5) Table SessionFeatures >column featureid integer [primary key] >column featurename text > >6) Table SessionHasFeature >column sessionid integer [primary key] (foreign key) >column featureid integer [primary key] (foreign key) > >7) Table SessionServices >column serviceid integer [primarykey] >column servicename text > >8) Table SessionHasService >column sessionid integer [primary key] (foreign key) >column serviceid integer [primary key] (foreign key) > >Note, it will be too difficult to capture a text notes separately for each >service on each session. Instead, a single column, servicenotes, on >the sessions table will capture any details about any services. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Toolsdev mailing list >Toolsdev@arisia.org >http://arisia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolsdev From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 02:03:16 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5463GRW006945 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 02:03:16 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5463EQW006940 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 02:03:14 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5463EBM023356 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 02:03:14 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54639Xa023352 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 02:03:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200506040603.j54639Xa023352@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: toolsdev@arisia.org Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] MySQL versions on zydeco In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Jun 2005 18:52:02 EDT." <1117839122.7181.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 06:03:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 02:03:09 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 06:03:16 -0000 >CONGO manages its own triggers Well, the main reason I favor db based triggers is because I like having such constraints naturally grouped with the other constraints. Also, having them in the database means that one can develop other software aimed at this data without needing to care about whatever libraries or API we are using. The schema file serves as the central point of structure for the data, and we don't need to refer to another document to see how all constraints were implemented. -- Is qui iacit in hamas marsupiales. http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 06:39:38 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54Adcg6023461 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:39:38 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54AdZ2m023456 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:39:35 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j54AdYBM025440 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:39:34 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54AdTXP025436 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:39:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200506041039.j54AdTXP025436@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: toolsdev@arisia.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:19:09 CDT." <048A9017-2100-499E-A837-7F47E8F81B7D@egbt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Subject: [Toolsdev] SQLish Revised schema X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:39:38 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 06:39:29 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:39:38 -0000 http://www.hacksaw.org/progDB.sql Please note that this is not a finished document in the least. Notably it has no constraints and the formatting is as yet unclean. This is merely a chance for you to see what I am doing, and for me to ask questions about things. Please have a look, and maybe come up with answers to the questions I have marked with XXX. This rendering does not take into account anything beyond the document that Jack put out. -- Sleepy, Dopey, Sneezy, Bashful, Grumpy, Happy, Doc Just in case you'd forgotten... http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From SRS0=PNlp+a=UK=sophia2.somerville.ma.us=olszowka@yourhostingaccount.com Sat Jun 4 09:52:17 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54DqHhF004185 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:52:17 -0400 Received: from out-mail18.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.75]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54DqD7B004180 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:52:13 -0400 Received: from scan08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.238] helo=scan08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mail18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DeZ4P-0004HC-PR for Toolsdev@arisia.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:52:13 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] ident=exim) by scan08.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1DeZ4P-0003bB-Mt for Toolsdev@arisia.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:52:13 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] helo=authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DeZ4P-0003b3-Da for Toolsdev@arisia.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:52:13 -0400 Received: from c-66-30-13-97.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([66.30.13.97] helo=Peter-Personal) by authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1DeZ4P-0002XA-5I for Toolsdev@arisia.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:52:13 -0400 From: "Peter Olszowka" To: Toolsdev@arisia.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42A179D7.5289.1E7EF22F@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200506041039.j54AdTXP025436@hacksaw.org> References: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:19:09 CDT." <048A9017-2100-499E-A837-7F47E8F81B7D@egbt.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-EN-UserInfo: f6725fa97629e9bcbd3777016a28fb5f:989e9222681cc704a9ca1e92c5bdb4d7 X-EN-AuthUser: olszowka@sophia2.somerville.ma.us Sender: "Peter Olszowka" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Cc: Subject: [Toolsdev] Tool name -- Zambia? X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:52:17 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:52:23 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:52:17 -0000 Hi, Guys, it would really help if this tool had a name. I propose Zambia because it's fairly short, not a hot issue in the news these days, and just south of Congo. --PeterO From SRS0=PNlp+a=UK=sophia2.somerville.ma.us=olszowka@yourhostingaccount.com Sat Jun 4 10:47:36 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54ElauT007487 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:47:36 -0400 Received: from out-mail10.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.74]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54ElZQu007482 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:47:35 -0400 Received: from scan03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.233] helo=scan03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mail10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DeZgc-0008VJ-PG for toolsdev@arisia.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:31:42 -0400 Received: from authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.156] ident=exim) by scan03.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1DeZgc-0005Ls-EH for toolsdev@arisia.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:31:42 -0400 Received: from authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.156] helo=authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DeZgb-0005Lp-6s for toolsdev@arisia.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:31:41 -0400 Received: from c-66-30-13-97.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([66.30.13.97] helo=Peter-Personal) by authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1DeZga-0001e6-VW for toolsdev@arisia.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:31:41 -0400 From: "Peter Olszowka" To: toolsdev@arisia.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42A18317.30075.1EA314DB@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-EN-UserInfo: f6725fa97629e9bcbd3777016a28fb5f:989e9222681cc704a9ca1e92c5bdb4d7 X-EN-AuthUser: olszowka@sophia2.somerville.ma.us Sender: "Peter Olszowka" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.5 tests= X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Toolsdev] Info into Wiki on tool development X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:47:36 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:31:51 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:47:36 -0000 Hi, I created a page on the wiki specifically about tool development. It would be great to collect as many relevant documents there as possible. In particular, I'd love to see the schema itself on the wiki to permit collaborative editing of it. http://www.techno-fandom.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/ArisiaProg/DevHome --PeterO From dbs@homeport.org Sat Jun 4 10:51:52 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54EpqwO007768 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:51:52 -0400 Received: from seawall.homeport.org (seawall.homeport.org [136.248.127.98]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54EplEC007761 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:51:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7A8398B0 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawall.homeport.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (seawall.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98765-03 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lightship.internal.homeport.org (lightship.internal.homeport.org [10.0.0.11]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A0A398AD for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.0.0.11]) by lightship.internal.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A832C943 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] Info into Wiki on tool development From: Dave Belfer-Shevett To: toolsdev@arisia.org In-Reply-To: <42A18317.30075.1EA314DB@localhost> References: <42A18317.30075.1EA314DB@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Arisia Registration Geek Message-Id: <1117896700.4878.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at homeport.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dbs@homeport.org List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:51:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:51:40 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:51:52 -0000 On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 10:31 -0400, Peter Olszowka wrote: > I created a page on the wiki specifically about tool development. It > would be great to collect as many relevant documents there as > possible. In particular, I'd love to see the schema itself on the wiki to > permit collaborative editing of it. What he said. -- Dave Belfer-Shevett Arisia Registration Geek From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 13:47:44 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54Hliaq019316 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:47:44 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54HlXub019309 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:47:33 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j54HlXBM004068 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:47:33 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54HlS1D004064 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:47:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200506041747.j54HlS1D004064@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: toolsdev@arisia.org Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] Info into Wiki on tool development In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:31:51 EDT." <42A18317.30075.1EA314DB@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:47:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:47:27 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:47:44 -0000 I'll get the SQL schema up there as soon as I am done with this next edit, since I like emacs better than browser editing. -- Omnia plures altus Latina videt http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 14:12:46 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54ICkA1020761 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:12:46 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54ICgeO020756 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:12:42 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j54HqPBM004139; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:52:25 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54HqKxd004135; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:52:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200506041752.j54HqKxd004135@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Peter Olszowka" Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] Tool name -- Zambia? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:52:23 EDT." <42A179D7.5289.1E7EF22F@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Cc: Toolsdev@arisia.org X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:12:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:52:20 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:12:47 -0000 I'm good with Zambia. -- You can reach either for the stars or your ankles http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From jdietz@egbt.org Sat Jun 4 14:21:09 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54IL9cm021387 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:21:09 -0400 Received: from pilfer.dreamhost.com (pilfer.dreamhost.com [66.33.217.5]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54IL3a6021382 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:21:03 -0400 Received: from [10.255.255.252] (hladolet.midgard.org [64.81.169.44]) by pilfer.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C7712DA11; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:21:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200506041039.j54AdTXP025436@hacksaw.org> References: <200506041039.j54AdTXP025436@hacksaw.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3B2F712A-67C4-4D6F-BC81-DCFCABB97742@egbt.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jack Dietz Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] SQLish Revised schema To: Hacksaw X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Cc: toolsdev@arisia.org X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:21:09 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:21:06 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:21:09 -0000 Hacksaw, Thanks for reformatting the schema into SQL. I do think it's important for the schema to be read directly into the DB, so the documentation and code are in the same place, and I appreciate you taking that step. I had been using an outlining tool on my laptop when the schema was evolving quickly; now that we've got the basic tables in place and are discussing individual columns I think we should go forward with editing the SQL-interpretable version. All of the XXX-denoted fields I see are ones where I'm not sure what the best approach is, so I'd appreciate discussion. Here's my take on them. Warnings: There are two columns in sessions, participants and rooms for warnings: a boolean 'warningsp' to say warnings are present, and a text field 'warnings' to store the warnings themselves. Peter imagined that we'd be running the code that analyzes the DB for warnings irregularly because it might be computationally complex, and to make sure they were up-to-date for each row storing them inside that table rather than in a separate table seemed useful. Descriptions: A description text field for tables like roomsetnames, sessionstates, etc would be useful if we plan to have live descriptions inside the generated web pages for the staff site. Otherwise, we can likely document it in flat text. Days: I'd rather have anything involving how many days a convention runs be variable rather than hard-coded -- remember, we had a 4-day Arisia this year! Whether that's done by making a table with '1 = Friday' '2 = Saturday' etc, or by referring to each day as the datestamp 12 midnight on that day, I don't have a strong opinion. Thoughts? Kidstatus: I think a kid is ages 12-, which is the ages where we've been targeting specific programming and specific registration rules. Participantcontacts: If we require all staffers who contact participants to be in CONGO, we can use fanid for this. I don't think we're going to be heavily searching this by 'who has this person contacted', so text should also be fine, and quicker to display. Participantavailable: We won't be grilling the participants for why they're unavailable. If the participant gives us a reason for availability, let's put it down; if we've determined that they're effectively unavailable at a given time, let's put the reason for that too. Jack On Jun 4, 2005, at 3:39 AM, Hacksaw wrote: > http://www.hacksaw.org/progDB.sql > > Please note that this is not a finished document in the least. > Notably it has > no constraints and the formatting is as yet unclean. This is merely > a chance > for you to see what I am doing, and for me to ask questions about > things. > > Please have a look, and maybe come up with answers to the questions > I have > marked with XXX. > > This rendering does not take into account anything beyond the > document that > Jack put out. > -- > Sleepy, Dopey, Sneezy, Bashful, Grumpy, Happy, Doc > Just in case you'd forgotten... > http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD > > > _______________________________________________ > Toolsdev mailing list > Toolsdev@arisia.org > http://arisia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolsdev > From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 14:41:49 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54Ifnk3022608 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:41:49 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54IfkZT022603 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:41:47 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j54IfkBM005033 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:41:46 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54IffKG005029 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:41:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200506041841.j54IffKG005029@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: toolsdev@arisia.org Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] SQLish Revised schema In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2005 11:21:06 PDT." <3B2F712A-67C4-4D6F-BC81-DCFCABB97742@egbt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:41:50 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:41:41 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:41:50 -0000 >Warnings: Okay. I don't think we need warningsp, as I doubt that we'll ever have so many records that a special column indicating data in another column is significantly faster than checking if the data column is not null. > Descriptions: I like the idea of everything living in the database, and generating a certain amount of paper documentation from that. >Days: It just now occurs to me that certains types of post con analysis would be made easier by having an integer day-o-con designation, rather that a time stamp, so I vote for days. >Kidstatus: I think a kid is ages 12-, which is the ages Missing a range end. >Participantcontacts: >so text should also be fine I have visions of us recording someone's dissociative personalities in here. "Let's see, was Mr. Lucas contacted by Bob in his manic phase, or depressive?" Anyway, text makes sense. >Participantavailable: Right, I see. Good. -- The best is the enemy of the good -- Voltaire The Good Enough is the enemy of the Great -- Me http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 15:51:04 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54Jp3Pv026440 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:51:04 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54Jowco026433 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:50:59 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j54JowBM005469; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:50:58 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54Jordc005465; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:50:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200506041950.j54Jordc005465@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jack Dietz Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] SQLish Revised schema In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:42:20 PDT." <7E6DE0C3-B14F-475D-85C8-B1D32183C5B4@egbt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.significant.com id j54Jp3Pv026440 Cc: toolsdev@arisia.org X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:51:04 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:50:53 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:51:04 -0000 >Nope.  I meant 12 and under. Oh. I'm used to ranges being expressed with lower on the left, so... Anyway, I wonder if that's a realistic division. I can imagine that activities for 8-12 yr old kids might be pretty different than those for 4-8. Maybe it'd be productive to ask Persis for her opinion. -- Dubious as dubi does. http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 15:57:24 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54JvOFp026780 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:57:24 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54JvKt4026775 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:57:21 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j54JvKBM005530 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:57:20 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54JvFdV005526 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:57:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200506041957.j54JvFdV005526@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: toolsdev@arisia.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.5 tests= X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Toolsdev] musings on db's X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:57:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:57:15 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:57:24 -0000 MySql seems to have no array column type. On the other hand, Postgresql has no enums. -- Digression is nine tenths of the lore http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 16:04:34 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54K4YN1027218 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:04:34 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54K4W4v027203 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:04:32 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j54K4VBM005620 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:04:31 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54K4QwL005616 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:04:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200506042004.j54K4QwL005616@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: toolsdev@arisia.org Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] MySQL versions on zydeco In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2005 02:03:09 EDT." <200506040603.j54639Xa023352@hacksaw.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:04:34 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:04:26 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:04:34 -0000 >Well, the main reason I favor db based triggers is because I like having such >constraints naturally grouped with the other constraints. *Sigh*. A wonderful idea, but quite possible with Postgresql. It's triggers must be written in an external language, not SQL. -- Twist that stump kitty Twist it! Thump! Kitty's dead now He's hamster hors d'oerves http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From jdietz@egbt.org Sat Jun 4 16:14:19 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54KEJtD027796 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:14:19 -0400 Received: from plunder.dreamhost.com (plunder.dreamhost.com [66.33.213.13]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54KEIR9027784 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:14:18 -0400 Received: from [10.255.255.252] (hladolet.midgard.org [64.81.169.44]) by plunder.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E26A86278; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200506041841.j54IffKG005029@hacksaw.org> References: <200506041841.j54IffKG005029@hacksaw.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Message-Id: <7E6DE0C3-B14F-475D-85C8-B1D32183C5B4@egbt.org> From: Jack Dietz Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] SQLish Revised schema To: Hacksaw X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: toolsdev@arisia.org X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:14:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:42:20 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:14:19 -0000 Hacksaw, Cool, all sounds reasonable. >> Kidstatus: I think a kid is ages 12-, which is the ages >> > > Missing a range end. Nope. I meant 12 and under. Jack From hacksaw@hacksaw.org Sat Jun 4 16:15:02 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54KF2nk027892 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:15:02 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54KF0KX027887 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:15:01 -0400 Received: from hacksaw.org (hacksaw.org [66.92.70.107]) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j54KF0BM005712 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:15:00 -0400 Received: from habitrail.home.fools-errant.com (hacksaw@localhost) by hacksaw.org (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j54KEt7e005708 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:14:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200506042014.j54KEt7e005708@hacksaw.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: toolsdev@arisia.org Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] MySQL versions on zydeco In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:04:26 EDT." <200506042004.j54K4QwL005616@hacksaw.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hacksaw X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:15:02 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:14:55 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:15:02 -0000 >but quite possible ^ not -- You are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike. Again. http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD From SRS0=IV4V0U=UN=sophia2.somerville.ma.us=olszowka@yourhostingaccount.com Tue Jun 7 07:49:44 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BnitK002452 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:49:44 -0400 Received: from out-mail18.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.75]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BnfFF002447 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:49:41 -0400 Received: from scan01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.231] helo=scan01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mail18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DfcLj-0007dy-4u for toolsdev@arisia.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:34:27 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] ident=exim) by scan01.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1DfcLj-0007mP-1D for toolsdev@arisia.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:34:27 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] helo=authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DfcLi-0007ly-Bu for toolsdev@arisia.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:34:26 -0400 Received: from [66.30.13.97] (helo=Peter-Personal) by authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1DfcLf-00084O-Um for toolsdev@arisia.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:34:24 -0400 From: "Peter Olszowka" To: toolsdev@arisia.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42A54E08.28005.9C092BD@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-EN-UserInfo: f6725fa97629e9bcbd3777016a28fb5f:989e9222681cc704a9ca1e92c5bdb4d7 X-EN-AuthUser: olszowka@sophia2.somerville.ma.us Sender: "Peter Olszowka" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.5 tests= X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Toolsdev] mysql database X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:49:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:34:32 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:49:44 -0000 Hi, With Jack's suggestion, I just realize that I have access to a professionally maintained environment with php and mysql from my website host. Thus, I have all I need to start development. --PeterO From dbs@homeport.org Wed Jun 8 20:01:45 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5901jbl011447 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:01:45 -0400 Received: from seawall.homeport.org (seawall.homeport.org [136.248.127.98]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5901hEc011442 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:01:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F06A398CC for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawall.homeport.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (seawall.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70195-01 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lightship.internal.homeport.org (lightship.internal.homeport.org [10.0.0.11]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AD4398E0 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.0.0.11]) by lightship.internal.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CEA2C943 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:01:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Belfer-Shevett To: toolsdev@arisia.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Arisia Registration Geek Message-Id: <1118275299.5549.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at homeport.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.5 tests= X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Toolsdev] MySQL update on zydeco. X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dbs@homeport.org List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 00:01:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:01:39 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 00:01:46 -0000 Alex tried to do the install on Sunday, but failed due to the age of the installation on the machine - RPM breakage left and right. My friend Mort did a MySQL upgrade on an even -older- redhat box I own, and got it all working. He's on his way back from a tech conference right now, but I already pinged him for help. Alex this morning gave me the okee to get Mort to do the upgrade. -dbs -- Dave Belfer-Shevett Arisia Registration Geek From dbs@homeport.org Sun Jun 12 20:59:09 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0x9Hl021932 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:59:09 -0400 Received: from seawall.homeport.org (seawall.homeport.org [136.248.127.98]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0whpm021890 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4123989B for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawall.homeport.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (seawall.homeport.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31028-07 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lightship.internal.homeport.org (lightship.internal.homeport.org [10.0.0.11]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F4F39884 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.0.0.11]) by lightship.internal.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6382C943 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Belfer-Shevett To: toolsdev@arisia.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Arisia Registration Geek Message-Id: <1118624316.4835.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at homeport.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Subject: [Toolsdev] [Fwd: Re: PHP links on zydeco.] X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dbs@homeport.org List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:59:09 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:35 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:59:09 -0000 Special thanks to the magic of Mort, PHP and MySQL are both upgraded on Zydeco. Have at ye! Who wants a database instance? :) -dbs -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: David Mortman Reply-To: David Mortman To: alex latzko Cc: Dave Belfer-Shevett Subject: Re: PHP links on zydeco. Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:21:52 -0700 php is now 4.3.11 and mysql is now 4.1.12 -DM -- Dave Belfer-Shevett Arisia Registration Geek From SRS0=53oGdx=UT=sophia2.somerville.ma.us=olszowka@yourhostingaccount.com Sun Jun 12 23:40:16 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D3eGRd032553 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:40:16 -0400 Received: from out-mail11.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.70]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D3dpbd032526 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:39:51 -0400 Received: from scan10.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.240] helo=scan10.yourhostingaccount.com) by mail11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DhfDF-0007Zi-QU for toolsdev@arisia.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:02:09 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] ident=exim) by scan10.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1DhfDF-00006H-N7 for toolsdev@arisia.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:02:09 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] helo=authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DhfDE-00006E-EJ for toolsdev@arisia.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:02:08 -0400 Received: from c-66-30-13-97.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([66.30.13.97] helo=Peter-Personal) by authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1DhfDE-0004mW-7z for toolsdev@arisia.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:02:08 -0400 From: "Peter Olszowka" To: toolsdev@arisia.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] [Fwd: Re: PHP links on zydeco.] Message-ID: <42ACBEF0.734.1B39110@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1118624316.4835.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-EN-UserInfo: f6725fa97629e9bcbd3777016a28fb5f:989e9222681cc704a9ca1e92c5bdb4d7 X-EN-AuthUser: olszowka@sophia2.somerville.ma.us Sender: "Peter Olszowka" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:40:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:02:08 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:40:16 -0000 Hi, Thanks, that's great news! Please create "zambiadev" to be accessed by everyone on the team and "olszowkadev" to be accessed by me alone. Do you need any other info? --PeterO On 12 Jun 2005 at 20:58, Dave Belfer-Shevett wrote: From: Dave Belfer-Shevett To: toolsdev@arisia.org Organization: Arisia Registration Geek Date sent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:35 -0400 Subject: [Toolsdev] [Fwd: Re: PHP links on zydeco.] Send reply to: dbs@homeport.org > > Special thanks to the magic of Mort, PHP and MySQL are both upgraded > on Zydeco. > > Have at ye! Who wants a database instance? :) > > -dbs > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: David Mortman > Reply-To: David Mortman > To: alex latzko > Cc: Dave Belfer-Shevett > Subject: Re: PHP links on zydeco. > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:21:52 -0700 > php is now 4.3.11 and mysql is now 4.1.12 > > -DM > -- > Dave Belfer-Shevett > Arisia Registration Geek > > _______________________________________________ > Toolsdev mailing list > Toolsdev@arisia.org > http://arisia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolsdev From SRS0=EvfJ1U=UX=sophia2.somerville.ma.us=olszowka@yourhostingaccount.com Fri Jun 17 08:12:33 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HCCXuC008722 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:12:33 -0400 Received: from out-mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.80]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HCCTdN008717 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:12:29 -0400 Received: from scan03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.233] helo=scan03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DjFRQ-0008J3-EB for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:55:20 -0400 Received: from authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.156] ident=exim) by scan03.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1DjFRQ-0002C9-CK for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:55:20 -0400 Received: from authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.156] helo=authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DjFRQ-0002C6-5a for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:55:20 -0400 Received: from [66.30.13.97] (helo=Peter-Personal) by authsmtp02.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1DjFRP-0003vF-RD for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:55:20 -0400 From: "Peter Olszowka" To: toolsdev@arisia.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42B281EE.21011.46AB889@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <42ACBEF0.734.1B39110@localhost> References: <1118624316.4835.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-EN-UserInfo: f6725fa97629e9bcbd3777016a28fb5f:989e9222681cc704a9ca1e92c5bdb4d7 X-EN-AuthUser: olszowka@sophia2.somerville.ma.us Sender: "Peter Olszowka" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com Subject: [Toolsdev] php/mysql now working on zydeco X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:12:33 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:55:26 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:12:33 -0000 Hi, DBS asked me to test php/mysql on zydeco and it is now working. The rudimentary "Create New Session" page is now working and putting data into the olszowkadev database. I have written and should soon be finished with the complete versions of the "Create New Session" and "Edit Session" pages. Tracy would like to get these up and running for use before the brainstorming meeting on Sunday. To that end, we need another database to be separate from my development one. After that, the work which is high priority is the "Find Sessions" page and getting userids and passwords implemented. --PeterO From jdietz@egbt.org Fri Jun 17 11:00:19 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HF0J7q019395 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:00:19 -0400 Received: from pillage.dreamhost.com (pillage.dreamhost.com [66.33.213.23]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HF0FRE019390 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:00:15 -0400 Received: from [10.3.3.148] (c-24-63-131-144.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.131.144]) by pillage.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DC41496A6 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <42B281EE.21011.46AB889@localhost> References: <1118624316.4835.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42B281EE.21011.46AB889@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <86E7DE55-C9A7-4309-9267-F4B311036D68@egbt.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jack Dietz Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] php/mysql now working on zydeco To: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:00:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:29:16 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:00:19 -0000 Peter, Groovy! I'm guessing userids and passwords will take more effort than "Find Sessions", since(I believe that gets into CONGO integration? Thank you for making so much progress! I believe I'm emerging into having more time to devote to this again, so I'll touch base at the barbeque. Jack On Jun 17, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Peter Olszowka wrote: > Hi, > > DBS asked me to test php/mysql on zydeco and it is now working. The > rudimentary "Create New Session" page is now working and putting > data into the olszowkadev database. > > I have written and should soon be finished with the complete versions > of the "Create New Session" and "Edit Session" pages. Tracy would > like to get these up and running for use before the brainstorming > meeting on Sunday. To that end, we need another database to be > separate from my development one. > > After that, the work which is high priority is the "Find Sessions" > page > and getting userids and passwords implemented. > > --PeterO > _______________________________________________ > Toolsdev mailing list > Toolsdev@arisia.org > http://arisia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolsdev > From SRS0=EvfJ1U=UX=sophia2.somerville.ma.us=olszowka@yourhostingaccount.com Fri Jun 17 12:11:03 2005 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGB34Q024161 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:11:03 -0400 Received: from out-mail12.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.69] (may be forged)) by msb.significant.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGB1sW024156 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:11:01 -0400 Received: from scan10.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.240] helo=scan10.yourhostingaccount.com) by mail12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DjJB6-0001Ed-8y for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:54:44 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] ident=exim) by scan10.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1DjJB5-00007f-WF for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:54:44 -0400 Received: from authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.155] helo=authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1DjJB4-00007X-Gd for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:54:42 -0400 Received: from [66.30.13.97] (helo=Peter-Personal) by authsmtp01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1DjJB4-0000ML-6k for toolsdev@arisia.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:54:42 -0400 From: "Peter Olszowka" To: toolsdev@arisia.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] php/mysql now working on zydeco Message-ID: <42B2BA09.28444.545E117@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <86E7DE55-C9A7-4309-9267-F4B311036D68@egbt.org> References: <42B281EE.21011.46AB889@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-EN-UserInfo: f6725fa97629e9bcbd3777016a28fb5f:989e9222681cc704a9ca1e92c5bdb4d7 X-EN-AuthUser: olszowka@sophia2.somerville.ma.us Sender: "Peter Olszowka" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at significant.com X-BeenThere: toolsdev@arisia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Applying coding to make our lives easier List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:11:03 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:54:49 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:11:03 -0000 I was thinking we could always use mysql logins for now. That should be pretty straightforward to implement. I just need to learn how http sessions work and how php supports them. --PeterO On 17 Jun 2005 at 10:29, Jack Dietz wrote: From: Jack Dietz Subject: Re: [Toolsdev] php/mysql now working on zydeco Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:29:16 -0400 To: toolsdev@arisia.org > Peter, > > Groovy! I'm guessing userids and passwords will take more effort > than "Find Sessions", since(I believe that gets into CONGO > integration? Thank you for making so much progress! > > I believe I'm emerging into having more time to devote to this again, > so I'll touch base at the barbeque. > > Jack > > On Jun 17, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Peter Olszowka wrote: >